OOC: Friends Locking Experiment, part two

[demonbelthazor]

I'm trying to prove to LJ that there's friending weirdness going on. Please comment here and tell me if you can't see this post (which is under a straight friends lock, no filter) and I have you friended (I don't have the new students friended yet). If you're feeling particularly ambitious, please check with all your characters. Thankee. :)

Comments

[walks-two-paths.livejournal.com]

I can see this one with this journal, but not the first post.

*checks with other journals*

[demonbelthazor]

So you can see the locked post as future_visions but not walks_two_paths or notafairmaiden? *checks* And I have all three friended.

[walks-two-paths.livejournal.com]

That's right. *nods*

[abhorsentobe.livejournal.com]

Can't see it from this account.

[demonbelthazor]

*checks* And yet we're mutual friends. Thanks, LJ wanted more examples than what I had given them.

[the_merriest]

the_merriest can see it. palestshadow and sizzler_sisters both can't.

[demonbelthazor]

And again I have all friended. Thanks for the examples, they should help LJ figure this out.

[whitedeathpod.livejournal.com]

This account and sixstandingby cannot view it.

[demonbelthazor]

And my userinfo says I have them both friended. Thanks for the help. :)

[stykera]

Cannot see it from this account.

[demonbelthazor]

And yet I have you friended . . . funny that.

Thanks!

[morpherboy.livejournal.com]

Marco and Broots can both see it, but Faithful hates you on a personal level.

[demonbelthazor]

Dude, threeweapons can't see it? That ain't right.

[practicaldevice.livejournal.com]

That's what the cat thinks. Loudly. With sharp claws. ;)

[demonbelthazor]

*appeases him with shrimp and tuna?*

[practicaldevice.livejournal.com]

Lobster? (Wow that's weird from this account.)

[robinthefrog.livejournal.com]

Robin could not see that post.

[demonbelthazor]

Yet I have him friended. Okay, thanks for the example!

[absolutesnark]

I can see it from this account, but not from Piper's.

[demonbelthazor]

cookinggeek can't see it? I don't even have to check to know I have her friended!

[absolutesnark]

Gah, I thought I mentioned this last night, but apparently I didn't...

I can see that post from Piper's account when I click on the link. The post didn't show up on her friends page, though, which is a different issue and not the one you are talking about in this post. So ignore my previous comment. ;)

[solowhistler.livejournal.com]

I can see it from:
bigdamndean
chloe_sullivan
fh_extras
fh_office
geniusdoctor
psychic_wonder

I cannot see it from:
solowhistler

[demonbelthazor]

Aaaaand all of them, including solowhister are friended. I really hope LJ can make sense of this!

[ktarian-wildman.livejournal.com]

I can see the post when I'm logged in as Naomi and Liz (pyroliz) but I can't when I'm logged in as Andros (imcalledandros).

[demonbelthazor]

*checks* Andros is indeed friended, so I don't know why you can't see it as him. Hopefully LJ will figure this out!

[goodgirlmeg.livejournal.com]

I can see it from surferboy_09er, witchy_prue and swedish_chef_. But not from motherboy_bluth

Not that I'm playing Buster anymore but it's nice to have another example :)

[demonbelthazor]

And I have all of them friended (except Meg). Houston, we definitely have a problem, yo.

[water-wonder.livejournal.com]

I can't see the post that you've linked in the entry as water_wonder. I'll check now as im_afrog.

[im-afrog.livejournal.com]

Nope, can't see it from this account either.

[demonbelthazor]

And I have you both friended. *le sigh* Maybe LJ will believe me now?

[montecito-east.livejournal.com]

I can't see it either.

[demonbelthazor]

And we are indeed mutual friends. Thank you for checking!

[im-fullmetal.livejournal.com]

I can see the post from once_a_king, kypriothschoice, and southernbender, but not from this account.

[demonbelthazor]

And I have each one friended. There's no rhyme or reason to this! Thanks for checking.

[suit-of-awesome.livejournal.com]

Neither suit_of_awesome nor ltcolkirk can see the post!

[demonbelthazor]

Thanks for adding to my examples! :)

[ladycfitzgerald.livejournal.com]

And just to cross-reference, this account and connernotconnor can't see that post, but futurebucs_star and queen_of_zagreb can. :)

[demonbelthazor]

And I've confirmed I have all four friended, so they *should* be able to see it. The hover menu, however, says that I don't have Anne and Conner friended. Erm, what?

[mparkerceo.livejournal.com]

*waves* Can't see it from here or Charlie's account.

[demonbelthazor]

And I do indeed have you and girlzippo friended. Wheee, buggy LJ!

[smartestone]

Once more with journals!

Can see from:
smartestone
iqof39

Can't see from:
can_be_more
fates_jaye
trickster_twin

[demonbelthazor]

And all of them are friended so they should all see it. There seems to be a large number of alumni -- but not all -- who can't see the post, but it's a straight lock so that shouldn't matter. Thanks for giving me more examples!

[neurotic-witch.livejournal.com]

I was able to see it from Veronica's journal.

And Chris & Marie's for that matter.

[sarcasm-guy.livejournal.com]

Can see from sarcasm_guy.

Can't from whatever_sucks.

[demonbelthazor]

And I just confirmed both are friended by me, so I don't know why they can't see it. Gah, I hope LJ can fix this.

[mistressofblack.livejournal.com]

Can't see it from hotceltogoth or oncourtandstage (nor this account, but you don't have it friended yet anyway, so moot point).

If LJ's looking for more specific information, the problem appears to be that, when adding friends via the control panel, and adding them directly to filters at that time, they appear to add only to the filter, and not to whatever root-level database friends are stored in. As you do have them friended on the upper level, they will show up on your f-list -- but general f-locking appears to derive from the root of that database, so if you f-lock a post that's not a filter, those people won't be able to see the post.

[demonbelthazor]

Oooh, that's a good insight! I'll add that into the support request. I was wondering if it had something to do with friending via the console since so many of the alumni weren't seeing the post.

[not_in_the_book]

From what I can tell, it looks like it started around the beginning of the first summer session -- certainly, a lot of the characters having problems seem to be ones from around then, or later through the summer, and also alumni who got switched to the alum filter at that time.

One solution that seems to work is adding people again through use of the hover-menu -- certainly it's worked for me -- but that's tedious enough, especially in a game of our size, that it's not really anything more than a stop-gap measure until LJ can find a more permanent fix.

[apocalypsesoon.livejournal.com]

Uh, yeah, I'm blocked. FH wackery or LJ skullduggery?